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Re: batman returns costume build ( jester fx )


didn't realize you could foam back a piece after its been pulled. is that what you did thawk?

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Not foam back as in pouring latex foam, but foam back as in cutting out foam from a block to fill in areas which would otherwise be vacuous when the armor is mounted to the undersuit - yes. It was a bit tedious for me - cutting chunks of foam in the shapes of pec/lat and then gluing them to the armor before mounting the armor to the undersuit (lots of checking, test fitting, and rechecking, following by more cutting & checking etc.) - but it really helped provide support around areas which otherwise were susceptible to collapse or shaping issues. I was in a bit of a time crunch to finish mounting my suit at the time so I almost skipped it, but I knew I'd regret it later so I took the time and I'm glad I did.



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i really like this idea and it does make sense as when a suit like this is made for a movie it is done on the actors boy form for a proper fit and when cast in foam latex it is as thick as the original sculpt. so the pecks and other areas are solid foam filled and do not cave in.

the one mane concern i would have if doing this as a job for a client would be that if it is foam filled and fits me or my body form i use it may not fit them thawk97 like you said it was lots of test fitting to make it fit and feel proper.

thawk97 or jay if you have photos of what you did please post them like i said i grasp the concept but a visual is always nice

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Here is a pic from when I was doing it - this is fairly early on as you can see the areas which become the front side lats have some really rough cut chunks just sitting in them waiting to be fitted and trimmed properly. I think the cod was getting close in terms of shape but there was still some depth trimming to do. You can see on the cod how I left area around the edges of the foam so the armor could still be glued directly to the undersuit so the backfill wouldn't create bulging but would still provide nice support (no pun intended).

You can also see some pieces in the back side lats (look like wings in this pic) just laying in those valleys as well - those look like they were close to done but I can't remember - maybe a bit more trimming but again you can see I was planning to slightly overstuff all the areas

also, notice the delicate "pear candles" providing beautiful decor while I work....

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very nice thanks for the photo and those begins torso's are monsters such a big sculpt there is lots of dead space more so than any other movie armor

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cool idea. i don't know if i'd have the patience for that though. it would have been nice to do for my urethane 89 copy (before i parted it out), which was pretty soft and tended to collapse inwards.

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whoever ran that needs to learn their urethane a whole hell of a lot better

that tells me its being played with to damn much as it sets

well run pieces should be very very smooth, and any highs need to be dremiled down

then its 1000x easier to inlay foam pieces like that

#1 FLAW

bad running

#2 FLAW

not dremilling every inch of the piece down to even

#3 FLAW

not glueing every inch of the piece down


1-3 are why most builds don't look right
takes much much more effort but its the only way you get a piece that stands a chance of looking right

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It was Jeff's pull and the back is actually foam not urethane.

The one thing you're right about there though is I wish I would have had time to do a bit more dremel work. I spent a bunch of time dremeling it down, but as it was my first real piece, I was more hesitant than I could have been. If I had it to do over again, I would have done a bit more in that regard. In any case, I'm still very pleased with how it turned out. And, like you say Jay, it's all about learning from experience so you can do it better next time!

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were those candy pears edible?

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If you like wax haha

There the one set of candles that if I ever lit, my wife might kill me

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