Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film. https://bthecave.runboard.com/t1590 Runboard| Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film. en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:05:41 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:05:41 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16351,from=rss#post16351https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16351,from=rss#post16351Yes, about one and a half years ago.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:34:36 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16349,from=rss#post16349https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16349,from=rss#post16349Markus? The one you "had"??? Did you trade it off? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bruce Wayne4U)Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:08:31 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16348,from=rss#post16348https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16348,from=rss#post16348Yes. But it's not one of these, it's a Clooney Panther cowl. The cool thing is that the cowl they donated is number 39, the one I had in my collection was 38. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:34:08 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16347,from=rss#post16347https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16347,from=rss#post16347Did you notice that the Smithsonian got one of these? nondisclosed_email@example.com (NightwingBegins)Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:28:50 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16340,from=rss#post16340https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16340,from=rss#post16340You bet I will. I enjoy the hell out of my replica pieces and not to mention when friends and family come over, they love to take pictures and just want to know everything about it.It literally brings the inner child out in adults and that alone is priceless and a great feeling so I can only imagine what it would feel like to say this is the real deal screen used piece.My search continues and hopefully one day I will own a piece of histroy.nondisclosed_email@example.com (tmthegame)Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:19:20 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16339,from=rss#post16339https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16339,from=rss#post16339EXACTLY!!!! Which is why I just added a new foam piece to my collection. nondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:56:59 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16338,from=rss#post16338https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16338,from=rss#post16338Todd, don't let it discourage you. You will only worry about it at first but the excitement you get from owning such a piece will put those thoughts to rest pretty quickly. If you do get a cowl, or any other screen used piece, take the best care of it that you can, display it and enjoy it as much as possible.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:40:54 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16336,from=rss#post16336https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16336,from=rss#post16336no matter what you do it will die eventually and turn back into powder or goo no matter what taking care of it will just lengthen its lifespannondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:31:22 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16333,from=rss#post16333https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16333,from=rss#post16333Holy Cowl!! This thing belongs in a quality controlled chamber of some sort. lol!! Its ashame there a life spand on this piece because its beautiful.nondisclosed_email@example.com (tmthegame)Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:50:08 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16332,from=rss#post16332https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16332,from=rss#post16332you forgot to to say clean it, because when you get one of these type of pieces they have never been cleaned since production also, nitrogen gas inside the case can help extend its life they can last 30+ years if well maintained moisture, uv, dust, copper are all killers of latex nondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:32:25 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16329,from=rss#post16329https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16329,from=rss#post16329I can only slow down the process by taking good care of them. Here are some basic tips that I use myself: 1. Never expose it to sunlight. Even reflected sunlight contains UV rays. Tint your windows or use UV protective glass. 2. Avoid flourescent light sources as they emit UV rays too. LEDs are the least harmful followed by incandescent (tungsten) lights. 3. Keep it enclosed in a case or display cabinet to protect it from dust. 4. Try to maintain the temperature and humidity at roughly the same level all the time. 5. Wear gloves when handling them. Oils from your hands are very detrimental to foam latex.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:33:07 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16327,from=rss#post16327https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16327,from=rss#post16327Proximo,how do you keep those cowls from deteriorating.I would love to get one but I am worried I would have to sell it before it starts going to hell.nondisclosed_email@example.com (tmthegame)Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:30:14 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16326,from=rss#post16326https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16326,from=rss#post16326Yeah, that's definitely paint, pretty cool. I don't think his neck is painted in any other scene though, atleast not in the scenes I have screenshots of, like the one I posted. But I need to update my screenshots to Blu Ray so I will keep an eye for more neck paint then.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:45:04 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16325,from=rss#post16325https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16325,from=rss#post16325ok, here is the painted neck pic nondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:55:56 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16324,from=rss#post16324https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16324,from=rss#post16324quote:Keatonknight wrote: If I remember well you have the panther and the ice cowl too.Which one is your favourite of them?Are they still in good contition? Yes. I have a production made unpainted Sonar cowl too, but it's been in Jay's shop for little over a year waiting to be painted. My favourite is the Panther cowl. They are in great condition, but the Panther cowl are in worst condition of them all because it was used so heavily for production.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:02:22 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16295,from=rss#post16295https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16295,from=rss#post16295its not any worse than it was in Returns with Keaton. His scenes in the bat sub are the worst if I recall correctly nondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:30:31 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16293,from=rss#post16293https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16293,from=rss#post16293quote:Proximo wrote: quote:resinsamurai wrote: Its painted not shadows....... I'm telling you. Go back and screen cap, no way shadows are that dark or hard edged. LOL Here you go. I don't see any paint. wow thats a huge gap, how the heck did they let him wear that? he was swimming in that one. should have put some eye black on the neck area as well. nondisclosed_email@example.com (phocker)Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:25:32 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16292,from=rss#post16292https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16292,from=rss#post16292Thats not the scene I mean. I'll try to find it tomorrow. Bale's would have done that too if they didn't glue it down they should have glued to Clooney remember they spent as little time as possible suiting him up because they only had george for a few hours from ER's productions so this is no shocknondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:32:34 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16291,from=rss#post16291https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16291,from=rss#post16291Man that cowl fit is TERRIBLE! If any one of us had a cowl fit like that, we'd all be giving tips to each other on how it needs to be fixed. I suppose that quality level is par for the course for that film overall, but seriously!nondisclosed_email@example.com (thawk97)Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:31:00 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16290,from=rss#post16290https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16290,from=rss#post16290quote:resinsamurai wrote: Its painted not shadows....... I'm telling you. Go back and screen cap, no way shadows are that dark or hard edged. LOL Here you go. I don't see any paint. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:18:21 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16289,from=rss#post16289https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16289,from=rss#post16289If I remember well you have the panther and the ice cowl too.Which one is your favourite of them?Are they still in good contition?nondisclosed_email@example.com (Keatonknight)Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:18:52 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16288,from=rss#post16288https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16288,from=rss#post16288Its painted not shadows....... I'm telling you. Go back and screen cap, no way shadows are that dark or hard edged. LOLnondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:10:08 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16287,from=rss#post16287https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16287,from=rss#post16287quote:resinsamurai wrote: Weird that he wore the other versions. Foam shrinkage can distort things like crazy so that was my reasoning. Yes, there are scenes were he's moving so much in the cowl that half his throat shows, and they painted his neck in the same black as his eyes to try and hide it. cool that jose could confirm this! I prefer the mean looking version where the ears are longer and run further down The scary thing was a big issue on Returns, and why the Steve Wang version of the cowl was sculpted 2 times and then Jose ended up doing the version we know. So it took clooney 3 times to be happy with a cowl that he ruined batman in. LOL Good to know and great that you cleared the confusion His neck isn't painted, it's just shadows. Yes, it was great that he could confirm it. I actually forgot to ask him when I first discovered it, it was not until a few weeks ago I finally did. quote:Bruce Wayne4U wrote: Wow Markus! That was some great info and fascinating photo comparisons! Appreciate you sharing that info with us! BTW, don't you own one of those Clooney cowls! I'm glad you like it. I own one of the main version used throughout the film. It is my cowl to the far left on the first picture.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:51:45 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16286,from=rss#post16286https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16286,from=rss#post16286Wow Markus! That was some great info and fascinating photo comparisons! Appreciate you sharing that info with us! BTW, don't you own one of those Clooney cowls! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bruce Wayne4U)Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:53:59 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16285,from=rss#post16285https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16285,from=rss#post16285quote:resinsamurai wrote: people dislike it because Clooney gave a crappy performance as batman, he was still acting like Doug on ER when he put the batsuit on everyday so it didn't play well. But the cowl is actually pretty nice, not as nice as the panther but pretty damn cool none the less I totally agree with you. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Keatonknight)Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:26:05 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16284,from=rss#post16284https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16284,from=rss#post16284people dislike it because Clooney gave a crappy performance as batman, he was still acting like Doug on ER when he put the batsuit on everyday so it didn't play well. But the cowl is actually pretty nice, not as nice as the panther but pretty damn cool none the less nondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:24:04 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16283,from=rss#post16283https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16283,from=rss#post16283Great topic and nice comparison. Why do people dislike that cowl?I think it looks great and quite unique. Proximo pm sent.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Keatonknight)Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:51:13 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16281,from=rss#post16281https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16281,from=rss#post16281Weird that he wore the other versions. Foam shrinkage can distort things like crazy so that was my reasoning. Yes, there are scenes were he's moving so much in the cowl that half his throat shows, and they painted his neck in the same black as his eyes to try and hide it. cool that jose could confirm this! I prefer the mean looking version where the ears are longer and run further down The scary thing was a big issue on Returns, and why the Steve Wang version of the cowl was sculpted 2 times and then Jose ended up doing the version we know. So it took clooney 3 times to be happy with a cowl that he ruined batman in. LOL Good to know and great that you cleared the confusionnondisclosed_email@example.com (resinsamurai)Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:50:43 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16280,from=rss#post16280https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16280,from=rss#post16280It is a terrible fit on his neck hahanondisclosed_email@example.com (thawk97)Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:30:36 +0000 Re: Clooney cowl, a second sculpt/version was used in the film.https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16270,from=rss#post16270https://bthecave.runboard.com/p16270,from=rss#post16270quote:resinsamurai wrote: I have always suspected, that there was only one or two of this other cowl and it was used in test footage... WB was famous for thinking cowls looked to mean or scary.. the one thing with this mystery cowl is that ears come down and curve into the head, not down into the traps only way to know if its anything other than a bodyshop is to go ask Jose. I can tell you that for sure the cowls were sculpted on a different buck than the panther cowls were, there are tell tail signs that the clooney cowls were not made the same way Other photos of the cowls http://propstore.com/img/products/21/batman6.jpg http://www.propstore.com/img/products/21/batman1.jpg the sculpt in that photo has always been really really 89 esc to me, with wider ears and a more pronounced dome After I discovered this I told you about it but you thought the difference was caused by foam shrinkage. I always disagree with that because there were too many different details in the sculpt itself. The only reason I'm posting about this now is because Jose recently confirmed to me I was correct. Not only that, he actually sculpted it 3 times in total before it finally fit George perfectly. It had nothing to do with how mean or scary looking it was.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Proximo)Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:13:53 +0000