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@BatmanAll,

did you realy exactly read what pjwares wrote???

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That's why for the areas of greater mass I'm using silicone foam. I'm also mixing two different types of silicone and these pieces are all produced using cored fibreglass moulds and of course are powernetted for increased strength.



So you don´t know his pieces and dierctly say "It´s a joke"???

If I were you I would wait till the items from pj would be ready and than you could say if you would like them or not.

Greetings Guido :bat01




easy man= he wasnt talking about PJ's pieces= he was talking about Sil in general. And honestly, I agree.

I had the same pieces he was referring to-- the ones the original maker claimed to be something he never let anyone buy- when I approached him for a set a couple years ago...

glad i didnt get them- because in all honesty- sil was a joke.

Maybe PJ can make something of it. I dont know that I would bother as urethane-- uhm- "its so simple, a caveman could do it".. and honestly, between the weight, the static, and the difficulty gluing it up= its just not worth the hassle and cost.

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Wow, who'd have thought this would cause so much controversy emoticon

Guido to be fair, I don't think Tony was calling my work a joke, since that would be very presumptous. He was referring to the piece he has.

I think far too much is being made over the weight issue. If I were to use the same amount of urethane in these moulds as silicone, the pieces would weigh exactly the same.

The issue comes from the cored mould more than anything. I wanted to use cored moulds with these pieces so they would sit on the body without huge caves of space where the armour wasn't being filled out. Obviously what that means is those areas are going to be thicker and heavier than just a urethane skin. My solution is to use silicone foam in those areas to decrease the weight. Something the maker of your pieces did not.

Will they weigh more? Yes of course they will, even with the foam I'll be using more material than is used by just painting layers of urethane into a mould, but it's a weight that will be distributed over the entire body and as far as I'm concerned that trade off is worth it.

That added to the longetivity, movement and repairability of silicone helped me arrive at my conclusions. This is the best material for me at this time. Others will disagree, of course, but I'm hoping many will be pleasantly surprised.

It really is worth remembering as well that silicone has made huge leaps forward since your Begins items were mate - even the Smooth-on ones emoticon

I shall say no more. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting and like I said, I'll be posting pics in due course.

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Guys I know exactly that BatmanAll was talking about the silicone pieces he has had that was totaly clear for me. But what I mean is it not to fast to say silicone is a joke before he did not see what pj would be able to do with it?

I also know that materials change very fast and what was bad about one year or more years ago must not be bad anymore. Also the fact that pj will work with innner cores and powernet will totaly be different as to the pieces that were done some years before.

That was what I tryed to say with my post it was not that I tryed to jump on Tony for sure not.

Greetings Guido :bat01

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PJ, can NOT wait to see pics of what your putting together! Can you shoot me an email, would love to discuss the project with you a little.

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